When Adrián Villar Rojas and Alfonso Cuarón first met at a dinner in New York City, they got along so well that they hopped on the subway together to keep talking, with Villar Rojas even skipping his stop so the conversation wouldn’t have to end. The sculptor and director have a lot to discuss, and were more than ready to reconnect following Villar Rojas’ exhibition opening at the Aspen Art Museum last month. Titled First Gods, Lost Animals, the show explores the cave as a simultaneously geological and mythological object, while challenging traditional notions of human exceptionalism. After the opening, the pair got together to pick each other’s brains on everything from moral philosophy to the “Western obsession” with the apocalypse, an idea Cuarón views as being “fed to us because it’s good to keep us afraid and thinking that there’s no future, no hope.” —SIENA BERGAMO
By focusing on human evolution and the human experience in their work, both artists offer a “celebration for a process that is in existence,” not one that’s coming to a devastating end. In conversation, the two went deep on non-anthropocentric filmmaking, artistic agency, and the mind-fuck that is making lots and lots of work.
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